Wednesday, March 23, 2011

No Fly Zone

Awww, 110 Tomahawk missiles isnt what you pinkos expected? Good work getting sucked in to the media mindfuck.

Prior to the bombing of Libya, many left-wing student groups (groups filled with people that don't have showers or proper jobs, but manage to find justification of their useless lifestyles through an assembly of intellectual circlejerking while also talking hours on end about shit they don't know about, demonstating to the world about how much they care about people in non-Western world countries and holding the belief that YOU are somehow evil now for not doing these things) were very vocal in their support of the end of the Gaddafi regime via the efforts of the various militant rebel groups. Their reasoning? "Gaddafi is massacring countless innocent civilians who just want some democracy in their country!!! He has to be stopped! OMG! Democracy = GOOD." (paraphrased from one of them whiny bitches with a megaphone on Swanston St). As future events demonstrated, not only did this bitch NOT know what she was truly talking about, almost all of them are as painfully ignorant and stupid as the other.

Here was my personal run in with one of these people. While browsing the news feed on Facebook last week, I discovered the following post:

As seen above, this guy (we'll refer to him as 'Left Wing Pinko') decided to share a link of a topical news piece regarding Libya, coupled with his brief commentary. Usually, a little dip of the toes in to geopolitical discussion never really hurts anyone. Some of the time, these kinds of posts result in a few likes and a couple of comments that go with the accord from people who don't really know what they're talking about. The rest of the time, nobody gives a fuck.

As you may or may not have noticed, LWP here made the reprehensible mistake of adding his extra two cents in saying "I thought lessons may have been learnt from Rwanda, Darfur and Srebrenica but apparently not." For those who are unaware, Rwanda, Darfur and Srebrenica are references to historic cases of civil unrest. Rwanda is a reference to the 1994 Rwandan Genocide where around 800,000 people were massacred in a 2 month time period. Darfur is a reference to the ongoing conflict between rival ethnic militia in Sudan. Srebrenica is a reference to the massacre of 8000 Bosnians by Serb paramilitary in 1995. Google that shit. The common thread in all these conflicts is that they were/are the culmination of historic and deep-seeded racial/ethnic tensions.

So anyway, straight to the point, what do these events have to do with Libya and what lessons were learned in the first place? The answer?? The lessons learnt have NOTHING to do with what is happening in Libya. The good people here at Stash Box don't tolerate blatant abuse of dead people's legacies and due to LWP's gross misappropriation of these events, I decided to prod to see what he really stood for...

How cute. LWP believes innocent people are being killed, dictators are murderous nutcases and democracy is a model for all to follow. A textbook case of your average left-wing pinko idealist The Age reader right here. Not only has he openly admitted to not knowing what he's talking about, (sadly) he's already established his viewpoint. I decided to go deeper....

I thought it was a good idea to engage in some throughful discussion on the matter. There are many things that the western media has failed to report or inaccurately portrayed about Libya. Before the chaos erupted, Libya had a lower incarceration rate than the Czech republic. It ranked 61st. Libya had the highest life expectancy of all of Africa. Less than 5% of the population was undernourished. In response to the rising food prices around the world, the government of Libya abolished ALL taxes on food. The people in Libya are also rich. Libya had the highest gross domestic product (GDP) at purchasing power parity (PPP) per capita of all of Africa. Unlike other oil rich nations, Libya distributes its wealth to the people. However like any country, Libya suffers from a government with corrupt bureaucrats that try to gain a bigger portion of the pie at the cost of everyone else. Back in 2009, as response to this, Gaddafi called for the oil revenue to be distributed directly to the people, because in his opinion, the government was failing the people.

Wait a minute, is there something wrong with this picture? I thought Gaddafi was supposed to be a "murderous nutcase"???? Sadly (and predictably), I was a fool for trying to engage in thoughtful and researched discussion because LWP and people like him are incapable of engaging in intelligent discussion and never do their research. Cue the next comment.....

Whoaaaa. Slow down there cowboy. To save all of you the labourious task of reading through this bullshit, I'll break it down for you. First of all, LWP refers to the anti-Gaddafi forces as "just freedom fighters pleading for help". Freedom fighters?? Lets get some facts right.

A week before the unrest began, it was the London based National Conference of Libyan Opposition (NCLO) that called for the February 17th "Day of Rage," not Libyans in the streets of Tripoli or Benghazi. The NCLO itself was created in London in 2005 by Ibrahim Sahad and his National Front for the Salvation of Libya (NFSL), which in turn has been one of the leading Libyan opposition groups since the 1980's. The Daily Globe and Mail has reported that Sahad's NFSL had been behind several attempted armed uprisings and assassination attempts against Gaddafi in the 1980's, while records found in the US Library of Congress indicate Sahad's NFSL had CIA support and training.

So anyway, we now have some evidence that suggests the uprising is funded externally by the West. Is Gaddafi "unleashing a brutal military crackdown on (his) people"? Or is he fighting a subversive invasion of the forces of US imperialism?? I won't suggest that any conspiracy is going on, nor am I voicing my support for any dictators but this entire time, Gaddafi has been claiming the West are after his oil. Makes you ponder right? 4 days after this wall post and comments were made, the no fly zone was imposed and US & UK forces bombed the fuck out of Libya, with more people being blown to bits as the days go on. The perfect solution to a "brutal military crackdown"? I thought this was "different to Iraq"? I'll let you decide as this thing is still panning out.

Anyway, back to the LWPs. It's clear that this LWP is buying in to the crocodile tears and glamourisation of "freedom fighters", taking an emotional argument and choosing to resort to the oppression cop out rather than contesting the facts. The glamourisation of freedom fighters is manifested by the fact that LWP and people just like him all own Che Guevara t-shirts and bust their nuts when the phrases "freedom fighter", "revolution" and "democracy" are mentioned somewhere. Guess what left-wing pinkos? If a real revolution were happening, you would be the first to retreat into a fetal state. And once again, LWP decided to misappropriate the memories of the victims in Rwanda, Darfur and Srebrenica. Some nerve he got there.....

I could post more of the comments, but that would lead me to the same conclusions. So to all the left-wing pinkos out there, none of you know what the fuck you are talking about. Do your research or please shut the fuck up. I did mine. Oh wait, you happen to be a university student? Hold on a minute, false alarm. Turns out you're an Arts student, majoring in politics. Get that shit outta here. If you're a left-wing pinko and you feel offended, I'll leave you with this:

Until next time,


This article from the Washington Post gives a little insight as to how the people of Libya really feel and what Gaddafi's role really is.



    this man directs his condemnation to the same people in question

  2. Hey dlx. The “LWP” in question here. This comment is more to address the nature of this post rather than the Libya debate, but I would still like to discuss that later on.

    Calm down mate. I thought I was being fairly civil and reasonable in our little debate. I even ended it good-naturedly with a concession of my lack of in-depth research and an earnest expression of intent to try and understand your position by looking through the sources with which you reached your conclusion. So what are you trying to achieve with this post? To show the world your superiority in intellect and status, and your formidable skill in being condescending? I can truly see now your passion for the thoughtful, civilised discussion to which you refer. Or maybe not.

    I honestly tried to engage in a meaningful debate, and tried my best to curb any arrogance, impatience or unreasonableness on my part, being well aware that I could potentially discover and have to rectify any shortcomings in my own position. I'm a bit disappointed that you not only refused to take an equally civil approach, but felt the need to exploit it on your blog a few days later to your own benefit by slandering my opinions and my person, despite having ended the discussion on what I believed was a positive note.

    As for your burning indignation towards all people undertaking my particular area of study, well, I humbly apologise that I’m just a lowly Arts student who had the nerve to choose to undertake the degree that is the essential first step towards my envisioned future and study the area in which I have the most genuine interest and curiosity. What were us Arts students thinking? We should have enrolled in prestigious courses such as Commerce and Science just so that we can enjoy acceptance in the eyes of our more respectable peers such as yourself. Or alternatively, perhaps you could learn to acknowledge the validity of studying what you want to study.

    I actually joke often about being an Arts student and promote those negative stereotypes light-heartedly, but when someone actually takes it seriously and uses it as an excuse to treat certain people as second-class? Fuck that shit.

    Anyway, despite all this, I don't have any hard feelings towards you personally; I'm not that sensitive, and I believe that disagreement with someone over a non-personal issue shouldn’t affect the relationship with that person. Ultimately, I think I'd have to thank you for making me think deep and hard about my own worldview, because that’s healthy. While I still don't agree completely with what I understand to be your viewpoint on global issues, in retrospect I can see that I was naive during our little Facebook debate. But I don't understand why you'd go and write up something of this nature afterwards considering the reasonable attitude with which I approached it, and put it up somewhere I assume you didn’t think I would read it.

    Back on to the actual topic, I'd be pretty keen to further discuss the Libya situation and anything else, and some issues I have with your arguments after having done further research. But if you feel you still need to constantly put down anyone who doesn't agree entirely with you, forget it. When I approach a debate with civility and an open mind, I expect the other party to do the same. It's a pointless waste of effort otherwise.

  3. first of all, tl;dr
    secondly, gtfo arts student

  4. Fine i'll go chill with my minimal contact hours

    Feels good man

  5. Hahahahaha oh man this rube just doesn't quit.
    I sure hope you have minimal hours buddy, after being exposed for the bitch you are, your gaping butthole is going to need time to relapse back into itself.

    Go regurgitate your shitty, manufactured opinions in your criminology lecture.

    p.s. did you also mean minimal employment opportunities?

  6. Enrolling in a course like Commerce or Science purely for self-aggrandizing reasons.

    Feels good man